Friday, June 12. 2009When does life begin?
I often argue that furious debate surrounding this question is focused in the wrong place. Scientifically, a new life begins at conception. Even a child knows that. What we are really arguing about when we argue about the beginnings of life is whether or not that life has value. Whether we think that life deserves protection. The Catholic Church does not "believe" that life begins at conception (because this is a fact), it "believes" that the new human life that begins at conception has value simply because it is human.
Whether or not a human embryo, either in vivo or in vitro, has value and should have rights and protections under the law, and to what extent, is an argument worth having. Arguing about the fact that a human embryo is a new human life is just a waste of everyone's time. It is unfortunate that I even have to point this out. I once spoke to a woman with a biology degree who swore up and down that there was no evidence than an embryo was a living human being. (I asked her why scientists study embryo death if embryos are not living beings.) She was adamant that her embryology book in no way shape or form said that life begins at conception. I was going to do some investigating, but Jivin J did some of the work for me already. Here are some quotes from various embryology books:
Thursday, May 14. 2009Embryo's Heartbeat Drives Blood Stem Cell FormationI am sorry it has been a while since I have blogged. Spring has just been crazy for me and it will continue into summer so I am sure there will be light posting until things settle down for the Taylor family. I found this piece today that made me think "blob of cells, my a--!" From Science Daily:
Monday, April 20. 2009Got Humanity?
Sometimes other people say it better than you ever could. In the comments at Wesley J. Smith's blog, SparcVark penned this gem on which humans get to be part of humanity and which do not:
SparcVark, whoever you are, you made Wesley's day, but you made my week! Nature: Vatican consistent on beginning of life terminologyInstinctively, everyone knows when human life begins. It begins just like in other species, when sperm combines with egg to create a new distinct organism. But for some reason, in humans we need to "argue" about it. It is only a "belief" that life begins at conception. I think scientists should know better, but many don't. They get caught up in their personal ideologies just like everyone else. It is not a "belief" that human life begins at conception, it is a fact. What is a belief is that life has value and should be protected under the law. This is where we disagree. The Catholic Church believes that human life is valuable from the very beginning to its natural end. I often get slammed by other science bloggers for "letting my religion get in the way of reality." Somehow they think it is my religion that says that human life begins at conception, instead of my religion simply acknowledging the scientific facts of life. What disturbs me more than anything is when so-called science changes nomenclature to fit an ideological agenda. For example, the push to use the term "pre-embryo" for any embryo that has yet to implant in a uterus. Or when doctors insist that IVF embryos have yet to be conceived. When "science" does this, it is the Vatican that is more scientifically correct. But do not take my word for it. Wesley J. Smith has a quote from a Nature editorial from 1987 discussing this very issue ("IVF remains in legal limbo," Nature 387 (1987): 87):
I want to point out three things in this quote. First, the editors of Nature acknowledge the obvious: if a fertilized frog's egg is called an embryo, then a fertilized human egg is an embryo as well. Second, they also point out that the debate IS NOT about when a human life begins, BUT AT WHAT POINT THAT LIFE SHOULD BE PROTECTED UNDER THE LAW. That is the real debate. And finally, the editors of Nature admit the Vatican is consistent in the use of scientific nomenclature when discussing the beginning of human life. Nature acknowledges that it is not some religious spin when the Catholic Church says an embryo is an embryo regardless of whether it floats in a uterus or in a petri dish. It is simply the Church recognizing the facts. Amazing! Tuesday, March 10. 2009Diseased embryos are trashI have no words for this article written by Megha Satyanarayana where human embryos are called "trash":
I have been criticized to no end for harping on IVF. But this is where IVF has brought us. Embryos have gone from a miracle of life and precious gifts to "trash." Nice. Friday, February 20. 2009Do you own a human embryo?You can if you live in New Mexico, and probably many other states where a human embryo is considered property. (I know embryos are considered property in my state.) The New Mexico State Senate just passed the SB77 the Stem Cell Biomedical Research Bill. Now, it is on to the House for a vote. This bill fascinates me. It has some very good things in it, but also some very bad things. Let us start with the bad. This bill would allow scientists in New Mexico to destroy embryos left over from IVF treatments, but only with the consent of the "owner." From the bill:
So, they admit that an embryo is a human organism, but says it has an "owner." I wonder who owns an embryo? Is it the woman who donated the egg? Or the man who donated the sperm? Or is it the person or persons who ordered up the embryo? There are some good things about this bill. First, it says it bans human reproductive cloning, and as far as I can see it actually bans human cloning:
So, it bans the creation of an cloned embryo not just the implantation of cloned embryos. Also, it prohibits the creation of embryo just for research:
And it provides a conscience clause for those researchers who are morally opposed to research on human embryos:
All of these provisions are good, but I just cannot get over the idea that someone can "own" a human being, even if it is only the size of the period at the end of this sentence. I suppose when you create life outside the womb, "ownership" becomes a problem that necessarily follows. Maybe, just maybe, that is what the Catholic Church saw coming when it said IVF was immoral. Tuesday, January 13. 2009Preimplantation Genetic Diagnosis occurs BEFORE conception?It does according to the BBC. This headline says so:
Considering that pre-implantation genetic diagnosis (PGD) takes a single cell from a newly formed embryo for genetic testing, I am wondering how that is even possible. PGD tests 3 day-old embryos to be exact. That means 3 days AFTER sperm has met egg. So how can PGD take place before conception? Well if you change the definition of conception, then it is possible:
Once again society is being mislead and numbed by language that has no meaning. If the BBC were to acknowledge that PGD occurs after conception then maybe some of us would actually put 2 and 2 together to make 4 and decide that they are very uncomfortable with this technology. Especially when we realize that all of the post conception embryos that failed the genetic test got tossed in the biohazard waste. I am wondering where is the outcry from scientists and doctors? How can they sit back and let a media outlet tell us the 2 plus 2 equals 5? Probably because it is good for business. No doubt the BBC definition of conception was given to them by a fertility doctor. I am reminded of this quote from Lee M. Silver, professor of biology at Princeton, from his book Remaking Eden. Dr. Silver discusses the use of the term "pre-embryo" (meaning an embryo that has yet to be implanted):
I am disturbed to my core at the redefinition of scientific terminology to fit a political or social agenda. From human cloning to IVF, there must be a secret memo circulating that says, "never call an embryo an embryo or else the public might just wise up." Hat Tip: Wesley J. Smith Tuesday, October 14. 2008When did I begin?I am sorry for the hiatus, but a sudden illness in the family had myself, my husband and four children driving 3500 miles across country last week. This means I have also been out of the loop when it comes to all of the recent news. So while I catch up, I will leave you with this entry that has been in the back of my mind for several weeks. My second child is in the 4th grade and her school does not do any sex education until 7th grade. So, like with my oldest, I recently took it upon myself to sit her down and give her the facts of life. (Her response was a resounding, "That is so gross!") To facilitate our discussion, I checked out several books from the library that had the visuals of the female reproductive system I was looking for. While reading these books designed for children, I noticed something very profound. Not one of the secular children's books on the subject of human reproduction was ambiguous about when human life begins. See, children could care less about the broad philosophical question "When does human life begin?" They want to know when they began. No children's book on the subject of human reproduction would say to little Johnny that "no one is really sure when your life began." No parent in their right mind would tell their little Sally that "knowing when you began is above my pay grade." Here are some of the excerpts from the very non-religious books that I got from my very public library:
Sounds simple because it is simple. Even a child knows when human life begins; when their life began. Even a child knows they have been a continuous organism from the moment Daddy's sperm penetrated Mommy's egg. Once again here is more proof that the so-called debate over the abstract "when does human life begin?" is not really about that at all. The real debate is whether that life has value. Whether or not that life deserves protection under the law. I find it more and more disturbing the ways in which adults commit verbal acts of contortion to obfuscate this issue and others like it. I truly fear for a society that can take something so simple as the moment of conception and not only deny the facts of what has occurred, but then pat themselves on the back for being intellectually honest. All the while accusing those who acknowledge the fact that a new human life is formed at the moment of conception of being "religiously biased." If I am "religiously biased", then so is every children's book on "how babies are made" in my public library. Friday, October 3. 2008Embryos and Eldery: the duty to dieI came across this post from Dr. Nuckols at LifeEthics.org and I had an epiphany. I have always known there was a link between embryo-destructive research and assisted suicide and euthanasia. There is the obvious "sanctity of life" connection, but this passage from Dr. Nuckols really put it together for me:
Does it surprise me that someone who advocated for the destruction of human embryos for research would also advocate death for those that feel like a burden to their families? Absolutely not. But what I realized is that Lady Warnock and others who share her opinions really think there are humans that have a "duty to die." Not just the sick or elderly who are a burden on their families, but also the "left-over" embryos from IVF. This twisted logic says that "left-over" human embryos in the deep freeze have a "duty to die" to give the rest of us "cures." It is the frozen embryo's duty to be ripped open for the "betterment of society" just like it is the duty of the sick and eldery to get rid of themselves. I shudder to think where this "duty to die" will end. Do the disabled have a duty to die? Do the mentally ill? Do the obese? I am guessing that Lady Warnock thinks everyone has a duty to die as long as it is not her or anyone she loves. Tuesday, September 9. 2008The "when does human life begin" debate is the wrong debateIt is unfortunate that I feel compelled to write this entry at all. The rhetoric surrounding Roe vs. Wade has crippled us in this discussion. It has confused biological fact with questions that cannot be answered by science. Let me be very clear. The debate IS NOT when human life begins. A new human life identifiable by his or her unique DNA is created at conception. What we are REALLY discussing is whether or not that life has VALUE. Now, that IS a question worth debating. If you think that a human embryo does not deserve protection under the law then say so. It does no one any good trying to assert that a human embryo or fetus is not a human life. Focusing on the wrong debate really gets us nowhere. Friday, April 27. 2007Archbishop says NO! to CrowFrom Catholic Online:
This quote is my favorite:
Sunday, March 25. 2007Ask a Catholic youth when human life beginsAsk a Catholic youth when human life begins and you may be surprised by the answer. This weekend I spoke at a local Catholic youth conference on stem cell research and cloning. I have also given courses in local middle schools on the subject. I always begin by asking them when science says a new human life begins. Out of probably 200 teenagers, only one of them got it right: conception. They answered with "when there is a heartbeat," "at birth," "when there is blood." But only one girl answered correctly. I am astounded and dismayed everytime I ask the question because most of them have been educated in Catholic schools. In fact, one girl was the daughter of friends of mine who I know have taught her about abortion and she said, "science says life begins at three months." The light bulbs go on when I say that what we debate isn't when a new human life begins (or it shouldn't be). That is clear: a new distinct human organism, identifiable by his or her unique DNA, is created at conception. What we debate is whether we should assign value to that life. The hotly argued question isn't whether a human embryo is a human organism, but whether it has moral worth. Then I ask them when the Catholic Church says human life begins, and they always say in unison: conception. What a disconnect. So next time you have the opportunity to talk to a Catholic youth, ask them when human life begins. Their answer will no doubt surprise you. Then it is your turn to enlighten them because clearly their science teachers aren't doing their job. Sunday, March 18. 2007How we all end up looking like harvestable biological materialI hate to sound like a broken record, but I will say it again, we abandon the protection of the human embryo at our own peril. What do I mean by that? Well, once we decide that one kind of human life can be exploited for harvestable biological material, then all of a sudden we start seeing other human life the same way. If we leave the embryo to be experimented on and destroyed for transplantable cells, then we all look like organ factories and guinea pigs. Organs for those people deemed "more human" because of stage of life or over-all health. I am sure some of you may think I am crazy. I get that. But, this isn't just something that will happen in the future, it is HAPPENING RIGHT NOW under our noses. We just need to see the signs. Consider the following:
Think this is just a coincidence that at the same time we are pushing for the harvesting cells from abandoned embryos, other humans are starting to look like organ repositories? Wake-up people! If you ever become what society deems "less than human," your organs may not be considered yours anymore and your wishes will no longer matter because someone else who is deemed "more worthy" needs your harvestable biological material. I will repeat: we abandon the embryo at our own peril. Tips of the Hat: Wesley J Smith, Biopolitical Times, and American Journal of Bioethics. Thursday, March 15. 2007Maryland legislators call an embryo "certain material"We all know words are powerful. No more so than in the contentious debates over embryonic stem cell research and cloning. The tendency is to dehumanize the embryo as much as possible so that destroying it for research doesn't hit so close to home. We have all heard embryos called "clumps of cells" and "blobs of tissue" and such phrases left over from the debates on abortion. The problem with these phrases is that are inaccurate. An embryo is a whole human organism which, scientifically, differs greatly from just any "clump of cells." Or to put it another way, if a human embryo is just a "clump of cells" then so am I. But this story really takes the cake for me. According to the Baltimore Sun, Maryland legislators replaced the word "embryo" in legislation funding embryonic stem cell research with the phrase "certain material" so that the legislation would get more support:
Oh yes, terribly clever...and terribly inaccurate. I have to ask myself, "Where is the outcry from the scientific community over such a blatant disregard for scientific terminology?" They must be too busy salivating over the $15 million to be too outraged. And therein lies the problem. This piece also points out what I have written about before: that stem cells from aborted fetuses are technically "adult stem cells" because they do not come from embryos. Fetal stem cells are often called "adult stem cells" to avoid controversy and hide their source, which is usually procured abortion:
So, be on your guard. It seems any semantic acrobatics are acceptable these days when it somes to embryonic and fetal stem cell research. Ask questions and dig deeper before you decde to put your vote, or money, where your mouth is. Hat Tip: Jivin J Sunday, February 11. 2007If it ain't in a womb, it ain't humanI have to marvel at the lengths people will go to rationalize away the humanity of a human embryo. I am more surprised when they put pen to paper and write down arguments that make no sense to anyone but them. From an open letter to Florida Gov. Crist:
Funny how those fundamentalist Christians actually believe what science tell us: that a human embryo is actually human. My baby needs nutrients from me and Mother Earth too if she is going to grow up to write angry letters to the editor. Without them she would die. I guess I should just donate her to science now and get it over with. I agree that ripping open a human blastocyst to get at the goods inside isn't the classic definition of "abortion", but to say that if it isn't in the womb, a fetus isn't human...well that is just plain stupid. Contrast the above nonsensical drivel to the intelligent words of Dr. Jerome Lejeune on the humanity of the embryo:
Saturday, February 10. 2007The Embryo ZoneTonight I was reminded of one of my favorite episodes of The Twilight Zone and I realized it had a lot to say about the acceptance of embryo-destructive research. I don't remember the episode name, but it goes something like this:
There is a powerful lesson to be learned here. It is simple. By rationalizing away the inherent value of a human embryo, we devalue all human life, including our own. Just take a look around. It is no coincidence that with the commoditization of the human embryo comes the argument that we should use those in a persistive vegetative state as guinea pigs in medical experiments without their consent or stories of babies in the Ukraine being stolen from nurseries and found dismembered, apparently for their stem cells. And I am afraid this is just the beginning, if we cannot stop and say that all human life has value, and should be protected, simply because it is human. Saturday, September 23. 2006Bioethicist debunks the term "pre-embryo"Scientists know that there is no such thing as a "pre-embryo." At the moment of fertilization, or nuclear transfer, an embryo is created. But some people who would like to harvest biological material from embryos try to define an embryo that is less than fourteen days old as a "pre-embryo" which I guess really is supposed to mean "pre-human." Robert P. George debunked the term "pre-embryo" in a recent talk at Church of St. Michael and St. George in Missouri. This article from the St. Louis Review Online is full of gems so you must read it all. Here are the parts I liked the best. On a cloned embryo versus a embryo created by IVF:
On the term "pre-embryo":
And I think this is my favorite:
It is really despressing that our society has come so far down the path of devaluing human life that the above statement of the obvious isn't so obvious to many. Tuesday, June 20. 2006A reader writes to the Ayn Rand InstituteA reader writes to the Ayn Rand Institute about the article written by David Holcberg and Alex Epstein that tries to redefine a human embryo as something other than a human being:
Saturday, June 10. 2006Determining embryo death means that embryos are aliveEmbroiled in a debate on the ethics of ESC research in the comments section of another blog, someone wrote that embryos are not alive. Specifically, they wrote, "It is a collcetion [sic] of cells with no life." Huh. Not according to these researchers:
Interesting. Doesn't a definition of embryo death pre-suppose embryo life? Another commenter from the same camp suggested that those of us who believe that human embryos are human and alive are seriously lacking in intelligence. I guess the research team from Columbia is pretty stupid then too. HT: Wesley J. Smith Friday, June 9. 2006News Flash: Human embryos are not human!According to David Holcberg and Alex Epstein of the Ayn Rand Institute, human embryos are not human beings. From the American Chronicle:
So let me get this straight: human embryos are not "human" even though they have all 46 human chromosomes and they are not "beings" even though they exist and are alive. Well, I am glad they cleared that up. I guess it is time to rewrite every human embryology book ever written. There is more:
I guess it is also time to expose the scientific community as religous dogmatics because they make the distinction between "cells" which are subunits of an organisms and complete organisms. How dare scientists confuse the public by classifying a human embryo as a complete human organism instead of just a "collection of cells." The Pope must have forced them to do it:
When I read Atlas Shrugged, I got that it was wrong to expect another human to sacrifice to make your life better. I thought Ayn Rand was against forcing anyone to surrender anything for the "good of society". I think the Ayn Rand Institute needs some of their own professed rationalism to see they are dead wrong on the issue of embryo destructive research. Friday, June 2. 2006Rhythm method kills embryos?From Science Daily:
Am I getting smarter or are supposedly smart people getting dumber? What has happened to fundamental education when so-called medical ethicists confuse the word "killing" with the word "dying." From Dictionary.com:
I suppose the distinction between "active" and "passive" is lost on these people. I am guessing that logic was not one of the courses in Prof. Bovens graduate curriculum. One more time:
Tuesday, May 2. 2006Human Embryo in the Pre-Implantation PhaseCommuniqué From Pontifical Academy for Life from Zenit.org:
Tuesday, February 21. 2006For those who doubt how complex an embryo is...From Science Daily:
The upshot for IVF and cloning:
I like the last part:
Obviously, this guy didn't get the memo. The term "baby" is so passe. He needs to use "clump of cells" or "blob of tissue" instead. Friday, February 3. 2006The acorn and the oak treeThe following entry is an exercise in futility, especially since I am no botanist or philosopher. (Although, I did spend a year studying philosophy at Oxford.) This discussion is probably not worth the virtual ink, but I found it stimulating all the same. Recently, I have noticed the use of the acorn and oak tree analogy in the discussion of abortion and research on cloned or IVF embryos. The arguments goes something like this:
Here is an example of the argument in use. (hat tip: Art Caplan from blog.bioethics.net) Katha Pollitt writes:
This is a sophisticated argument. Yet, I found the analogy lacking. Surprisingly, it took some time for me to pin point why. Of course, there is the problem of the moral equivalency. It is tough to make analogies between other species and humans because, as a society, we do not give any other species (plant or animal) the moral status of a human being. For example, we would not imagine practicing widespread euthanasia on humans where suitable homes could not be found. Moral status aside, is the analogy of the acorn and the oak tree still relevant? Well, from a reproductive cycle stand point, the reproductive cycle of the oak tree does not correlate well with the human reproductive cycle. The analogy would be better if it was used in mammals. But then it isn't as compelling. Imagine if Katha said the following instead:
Doesn't really hold up does it? But if we could make the analogy between the reproductive cycle of humans and the oak tree, it still doesn't hold up. Remember the quote, "A potential person is not a person, any more than an acorn is an oak tree." Well, an acorn and an oak tree belong to the same species. They are simply different points in the growth of the species, Oakus treeus. Just kidding, its really Quercus ilex for the Evergreen Oak. Let us imagine that oak trees had the moral status of human beings. Imagine there were oak trees of the species Martinus Kingus, or Motherus Teresaus or even Billus Clintonus. Imagine that each oak tree was considered unique and precious. Imagine that taking a chain saw to such an oak tree was such a heinous crime that it was punishable by death. Imagine it was a crime to pull a single leaf off of an oak seedling. Would it be legal and an established practice to rip a germinating acorn (which is an oak tree seedling) out of the ground before the first leaf could break through the surface and see the light of day? I suspect not. Which brings me to the following quote from Answers.com that turns the analogy on its head:
Friday, January 27. 2006Things that tick me off...Warning! Here comes a rant... Recently, I have come across a few things that really tick me off. This is by no means a complete list, but it is a start. 1. I am tried of hearing that when "life begins" is a matter of opinion or there is a debate on when "life begins." An excellent example is this interview with Douglas Melton. Melton says, "I don't believe I have the right to tell others when life begins. Science doesn't have the answer to that question; it's metaphysical." Okay, this guy, with his background in embryology, knows perfectly well when life begins. Science DOES have an answer to that question. The debate is not about when life begins. It is about at what point life should be protected. They are not the same thing and I am sick of people who should know better confusing the two. 2. Along the same lines as #1. Why is it we even think we need to debate when life begins in humans? We don't debate about when life begins in animals. If we humans "are just animals" then why should we be any different? A new dog's life begins at conception. Also, Snuppy's life began the minute a somatic cell nucleus was transplanted into a dog egg. I doubt anyone would hotly debate these facts. Why is it debatable in humans? 3. The euphemistic renaming of terms surrounding stem cell research. It seems some people are adopting the purposefully undescriptive term "early stem cells" to replace "embryonic stem cells." Could it be that it is totally ridiculous to claim that the product of SCNT is not an embryo and in the same breath call stem cells from SCNT "embryonic stem cells"? Absolutely! So instead of conceding that embryonic stem cells come from embryos, they just call them "early stem cells" and then they never have to acknowledge that an embryo is involved in anyway. So, if you survived that rant: Thank-you for listening. I think I feel better now!
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